I skied on these after demo'ing new B83s. The [$] price was great (with the bindings), since the B83's new were $1,100. These were all I expected. Great in powder or bumps; anywhere you want to make lots of turns, these are the best. Not real fast, they like to continually turn, at least in the length I got (this was fine with me- I'm not a speed demon). At 53 years old, in my 40th year of skiing, I have never skied even close to as well as I skied this year -I know it was these skis. Bandits Rock.